Hoyer Discussing Democratic Commitment to Middle Class in Tax Cut Deal on MSNBC

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... now, palin tells ""time"" that she reads anything and everything she can get her hands on. really? >>> finally, what diz president obama just do to link himself with george bush, bill clinton, gerald ford and richard nixon? >>> we begin by president obama selling his tax deal to democrats, or trying to. he's the house majority leader. thanks for joining us this afternoon. will the president get a vote on his tax compromise with the senate republicans? >> we're going to see what comes from the senate, but we're going to vote on something i'm sure. whether it's the exactly what the president made a deal with on the republicans or not, that remains to be scene. there's obviously as you know, chris, a lot of concern on the house side that we did some things that are not going to grow the economy, but will add to the deficit. which we're not necessary to do. but the republicans made it clear that they were not going to make sure that middle income taxpayers didn't get a tax increase. and held hostage. that freezing of rates to the freeze. upper income americans having a we'll see what comes over from the senate. >> let me ask you about the president's decision, what the alternative would have been. when you look, tough, we're not going your direction. what was the ultimate opportunity that was out there the president didn't take? as you see it. >> well, i don't think there was an alternative of not dealing with the republicans. clearly in the united states senate, there need to be a bipartisan agreement in order to move forward. harry reid didn't have to votes to move forward without republicans and so, discussion was essential. and frankly, chris, desirable. we want to have a bipartisan agreement on this issue. we passed a bill of course over to the senate which incorporated what we thought was the priority in making sure there was unemployment insurance available and secondly, that middle income taxpayers did not get any increase in their taxes on january 1th. that has not moved in the senate as you know. it's pending there. it will be amended. the president discussed with us, he negotiated with republicans a deal. it incorporates some things we don't think were necessary. we wish the president had made that case more strongly, but having said that, we'll see what the senate does and we'll see what their product is and as we said today, we're going to consider it and may make some changes and send it back to the senate. >> i guess the big question is a question of fact. did pelosi offer to negotiate with senate republicans or was the president force to send biden on a nighttime mission to talk to mitch mcconnell? did the president have an opportunity to bring you guys the house democratic caucus into this discussion earlier? did he let go by or did you folks tell him, no, we're not going to negotiate with those people? >> i don't think there was expression by us that we would not negotiate. again, there are a lot of things in the president's package to grow the economy, to encourage people to invest, to give them breaks on investing and buying capital products now rather than later. giving them a tax benefit in the short-term, so there were a lot of thipgs in there the republicans wanted, that both parties can support. however, our position was pretty clear on and the president's position was pretty clear that we didn't think that freezing taxes on upper income which would make the deficit worse, but not grow the economy, was good policy. there was no refusal by us to negotiate. negotiating with the senate republicans really is the -- harry reid's job and the president pursued that as well. that makes sense. >> you know, i've been critical although i understand the values involved of this eruption of rebellion against the president because it seems to me it's coming from people from one party districts. from people that don't face general elections. people like anthony weiner and people from the bay area. they don't have to fight general elections. how can people in districts that don't know what a general election is help develop a national democratic party position? >> well, of course, they are participants in the party just as everybody else. they par tis nat in creating policy, but we need to create policy that moves us forward in a way that is positive for the country and two objectives in mind, growing the economy, creating jobs and looking at a longer term fiscal responsible package that balances the budget or at least gets us back to a ...